German creators: W8BEN form question

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Hi,

are any Germany-based creators around here? I have absolutely no idea how to fill out Part II 9 and 10 of my W8BEN form and my researches have brought me no answer. Even my mum (tax professional of the family :joy:) cannot help me. And I suck at understanding complicated ā€œparagraph-languageā€ in these 50+ page long explanations on how to fill out a simple tax formā€¦ :joy::joy::joy: I am an EU citizen based in germany. What paragraph and percentage do I enter in Part II of the form? Helpā€¦pleaseā€¦? :joy::joy::joy:

Thank you :blush:
-mara

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Hi @samarasArt Iā€™m not a creator, but part of Patreon team in Europe. If youā€™re filling this form out as an individual, you most likely can leave part 10 blank HOWEVER Iā€™d suggest to have that run by your accountant nevertheless.

It sounds like you have done your research, but here are some links which may be useful for you:


Good luck :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much, i will look into that :blush::blush::blush:

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Hey, did you manage to find your answers?
I am German based, filled the form maybe 3 years ago (I donā€™t remember lol) and am not sure what I wrote into the form, but if you tell me what is the question asked I probably remember how to deal with it.
Liebe GrĆ¼ĆŸe

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Hi, sorry for late reply. I still havenā€™t figured it out :smiley:

This part gives me trouble (highlighted)

  1. Special rates and conditions (if applicableā€”see instructions): The beneficial owner is claiming the provisions of Article and paragraph (???)
    of the treaty identified on line 9 above to claim a (???)
    % rate of withholding on (specify type of income):
    ā€œdigital artworkā€

Explain the reasons the beneficial owner meets the terms of the treaty article:
(???)

danke im voraus und liebe grĆ¼ĆŸe :smiley:

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Hi again @samarasArt,

Iā€™m sorry you have troubles to fill in the form, as I mentioned before Patreon is not a registered tax professional, so I canā€™t provide you with advice on how to fill out this form other than redirect you to IRS instructions for how to fill out the W-8BEN here: https://www.irs.gov/instructions/iw8ben/ch02.html
Here are the instructions for the specifics you mentioned:
Part II
Line 9. If you are claiming treaty benefits as a resident of a foreign country with which the United States has an income tax treaty for payments subject to withholding under chapter 3, identify the country where you claim to be a resident for income tax treaty purposes. For treaty purposes, a person is a resident of a treaty country if the person is a resident of that country under the terms of the treaty. A list of U.S. tax treaties is available at http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Tax-Treaties.

I hope this helps , good luck :four_leaf_clover: