Creator page feedback

I’d love some feedback on my creator page. I’ve produced a pretty good amount of content, but I’m having trouble gaining any traction. Because my page is an erotic comic (warning: NSFW), I’m keeping myself anonymous on Patreon. Because of this, I can’t really utilize my existing social network. So I want to do everything I can to make my page discoverable and make people want to pledge. Help would be appreciated.

Ellie, I wonder if I can ask you to have another look at my page? https://www.patreon.com/majnouna
I slimmed down the rewards enormously and added pictures, but you will see that I had to work around the system a bit to add an “introduction” tier explaining a different type of reward. It would be really useful to be able to have a short paragraph of text before the list of tiers, for anything we need to say that applies to all tiers (otherwise we have to repeat it everywhere). It’s not info that I could put in my main page description, as someone reading up on the rewards won’t know it’s there or may miss it. My patrons were very excited about this new idea as it gives even the lowest tiers something to look forward to, and as it really encourages long-term patronage (so it can ONLY work on Patreon), I think you guys might want to give this notion a think :slight_smile:
Sorry if I’m going on a tangent!

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@joumana, so sorry for my delay! I was on vacation all of last week and am just getting back to everything today.

Your page looks great! That’s really interesting regarding the “reward intro.” I’m curious to see if you end up finding that any patrons accidentally select that reward in the future or if it ends up being really helpful to your new patrons.

I’m meeting with the product manager in charge of rewards today and will surface this feedback and use case. Thanks so much for sharing! :slight_smile:

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I wonder if I might be able to get some feedback, please.

I have been on Patreon for a long time (since Nov 2014) but I’m really struggling with gaining more patrons. My earnings peaked at around $100 but have now slid down to around $70 a month. I know that my subject matter is a little strange (ancient history, mythology, art etc) and from what I can tell the average age of my patron is about 40 years old (I have two patrons over 60!). I’m just really not sure where to go from here to build up. I’m on Facebook and Instagram, both of which lead back to my Patreon page.

P.S. I know I don’t have a video but I’m REALLY shy and uncomfortable with putting myself up on the internet like that.

Hi Bronwen, I thought I’d jump in if you don’t mind.
I personally don’t mind the lack of video, though if you feel you need one, it doesn’t have to feature you at all, you could just briefly feature your work, including maybe one at different stages of completion? Just an idea.
In your rewards, the images seem a bit redundant since the titles are already there, and add nothing to induce the viewer - how about details from your work instead? With colour if possible. The thing with your page is that your rewards are cards, prints, etc of your work, but we can see almost nothing of that work. Hence the thought of maybe using the video to put on an impressive display.
The mention “To prevent abuse, a patron is only eligible for rewards after three months” is repeated so much it is off-putting. You’re basically telling people “you’ll get nothing for the first three months because you’re guilty till proven innocent”. You can protect yourself from abuse without putting it so much in a viewer’s face. I would also slim down the reward tiers descriptions because there is much repetition and redundancy, resulting in too much text to read and ensuing confusion (I was guilty of that myself at first). There is no reason to list a few things then have “includes” and list them again. It’s quite confusing.
Finally, while I understand you want to keep shipping down by only sending physical rewards yearly, that model would work best if viewers were thoroughly seduced by your work so they felt it was worth the wait. Again we’re back at the same issue: show your stuff.
And perhaps you can find ways of being a little creative with your subject? I’m slightly in the same boat as you as my work is very niche and as far from “pop” as possible, so we have to find ways to reach out to a more general audience (while at the same time accepting we’ll always be niche). For instance, perhaps higher tiers can have creator input. Perhaps the $5 tier can include access to posts where you share little-known stories or info, symbols etc from classic mythology (and art! so much to say about the arts of the time), such things that do speak to younger crowds and that you’re knowledgeable about. There are lots of great little ideas like this floating about the forum, that you could implement without stretching yourself too much.

Edited to add: I love this image https://www.patreon.com/posts/ariadne-and-i-11163682
Something like this, for example, should be flaunted on your creator page. The colour are exciting, the layout is a twist on classicism and it also fits with current trends. I should think images like this would entice more people to consider pledging.

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I do not mind at all @joumana. Thank you so much for taking the time to get back to me.
Your feedback is wonderfully detailed and I found myself nodding my head as I was reading through your advice. I’m taking note and am going to work on restructuring the page.

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Heya,

I would like to jump in on this whole thing. I want to make my patreon more appeasing, and tempting to people? I am bad with both wording, but to get some better thoughts on other things I should work on would be helpful.

Enough of me just rambling, my patreon:

Hi y’all! Digging up this old thread to ask if someone would like to give me some feedbank on my Patreon page?
I have just updated the info, goals and rewards!
I can’t seem to keep my text short so yea it’s maybe a bit long, but it seems impossible to shorten down!
Any feedback on my page would be appreciated :slight_smile:

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Here are my quick thoughts on your page @nymla:
You have great visuals, both in the main page and in the images with the reward tiers. I’d consider making a short 1 to 2 minute video specifically for your patreon page. The current one (the 12 min timelapse) is a cool video, but after about 20 seconds I wondered when it was going to tell me about what your Patreon page was about - I clicked down and saw that it was 12 minutes and had a “Oh, I’ll have to watch this later or skip to the end” realization. (and of course I skipped ahead to see the Yule goat walking through the crowd - that’s one cool costume!) The discount on your etsy shop is a nice perk for your $10 patrons. I’d consider adding in at least one higher-level reward. Perhaps a personalized print (they pick the animal/topic and once a year they get their own unique piece of art?)

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@ScienceMom thank you soo much for the feedback! Yeea, I really have to make a video don’t I? xD Just keep putting that off. Really good to know how a first-time-viewer sees it.
I’ve been hesitant to add another reward although I have lots of ideas, I don’t want too much on my plate, but I’m definitely gonna think about that! Thanks a lot! :heart_eyes:

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@nymla, I made the mistake (a couple times) of choosing rewards that added too much extra work to an already full plate - so definitely be thoughtful about what you choose!

One of my higher priced tiers is called “creative coauthor,” (They choose the style and topic each month and I make a foldable book for them from one piece of paper. ) I knew it would be a bit of work, so I limited it to 1 patron and priced it at $42 because of a reference to hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that might make the science-fiction fan smile. Honestly, I didn’t think anyone would select it, but three months ago someone claimed it, and it’s worked out really well. It makes a fun monthly post that all the patrons can download, it ensures that I’m adding new material to my “free printalbes” collection each month, and the person who picked it really enjoys getting to choose the topic and style of book each month (this month was an miniature elderberry cookbook) https://www.patreon.com/posts/this-months-book-18704108

So if you can come up with higher level tiers that fullfill multiple purposes/functions - that’s a plus. But high level reward tiers don’t need to be tied to a high-time-commitment product. I think a patron with the financial means to offer a lot of support is more likely to do so if there’s some token of thanks or a cool label attached to it (Patron Saint, Sponsor, etc). My “Patron like the old school” reward tier was set at $200 and again, put in primarily as a joke (the description says “future generations will praise your genius”). When I had someone claim that tier, I was notified that they’d pledged $2, and then 30 seconds later that they’d pledged $200, and I was scrambling to figure out who they were so I could contact them and find out if they had accidentally pledged $198 more dollars than they intended.

The autocomplete in the Google search bar suggested “net worth” as what would follow their name – so it turned out not to be a mistake. I sometimes wonder about this millionare who happened to have dedicated funds for gifting to artists and happened to have a soft spot for the sciences. If I hadn’t had any high level tiers, what would they have selected as their pledge option? I’m not sure. I think it’s always a good idea to have a high tier.

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